Marmot Force 2P and 3P Tent Review

Marmot Force 2P Tent at Glacier Lake, Alpine Lakes Wilderness - WA
Intro:
I've been needing a 3 person UL tent and the Marmot Force 3P seemed like the tent for the job. It seemed like destiny that I also got my hands on the Force 2P right afterwards. I've had great experience with Big Agnes UL tents, will these Marmot tents compete?

Construction/Material:
Marmot Rain Fly
When comparing tents within the same price range, it's very easy to simply look at the max weight, floor area, vestibule area, and even dimensions. What is easily overlooked is the fabric denier used on the tents which can add additional weight but also durability. The biggest competitor to the Force tents are the Big Agnes Copper Spur tents.

Marmot Force 2P on the PCT
The Copper Spur tents are lighter, have more floor area, and provide slightly more head room. The Force tents provide more vestibule area, is cheaper, but the fabric on the tents is a bit more robust. Both Force 3P and 2P tents use 40D Nylon with 2000m water resistant floor and a 30D Nylon Ripstop, Silicon/ PU rain fly. The Copper Spur series only use 20D Nylon for the Fly and Body (Fly and floor are 1200m water resistant).  Will the fabric difference on the tents make up for the 6oz difference between the Force and Copper Spur series, probably not. But it does make the Force tents slightly heavier but also quite a bit more durable because of the larger denier.

Example of mesh quality control
The Force 3P and 2P are almost identical (same number of doors and poles) except for the fact that the the 3P is bigger. I've seen a couple Force tents come with shoddy mesh with lots of burs in them which to be honest is an embarrassment for the price tag that these tents come with. Just make sure to set up the tent and inspect it before keeping it.

Performance:
I've been fortunate enough to take the tents out on several awesome trips including the sections of the PCT and wonderland trail in Mt. Rainier National Park. It's been my primary UL tent this summer and a pleasure to take on simple overnight trips in the Alpine Lakes wilderness or North Cascades.

Plenty of Space for 2 in the Force 3P
The Force tents are simple to set up at the poles are color coded and the grommets are color coded for the poles. The freestanding design makes the tents easy to set up even in the worst soil or on rocks. The taught design of the tent provides ample space between the tent and fly so very little condensation from the rain ever reaches the tent mesh.

I do wish that the rainfly attached better to the center most hub as it's only kept on by Velcro, while the front and rear uses a plastic clip. The rain fly also provides mini vestibules on the front and rear of the tent, perfect for storing stoves and fuel.

The aluminum stakes that come with the tent aren't as nice as the DAC style stakes you see with other UL tents or even other high end tents. The accessories cord that comes with the tent for guy lines aren't reflective but the 30ft bundle is perfect for hanging your food in a tree.

Summary:
The Marmot Force 2P and 3P tents are great UL tents from Marmot. The tents are highly live-able while providing great durability, something rare in an UL type tents. The Force tents aren't the lightest UL tents on the market, but they use a higher denier body and floor giving extra durability and longevity.


Marmot 3P tent in front of Del Campo Peak and Foggy lake, WA
Pros:
  • Freestanding design 
  • Color coded pole design
  • Good interior space
  • Extremely breathable due to full mesh design
  • Durable 40D Floor and 30D Fly
Cons:
  • Mesh quality on the tent is hit or miss
  • Not much cheaper than other UL tents 
  • Tent stakes are not as nice as other DAC type stakes
  • Footprint fits sloppy on tent

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